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That doesn't make it any clearer Trojan but I don't have a problem. I just don't understand why you see Walmsley as the best option for 6. You may be right. I'm not saying you are wrong.
But I don't see a winger who has never played 6 in his life as the next best option. And more so, see playing one player in a position he doesn't always play but has experience out of position than 2 players out of position with one having never played in a pretty key role.
It's not that it can't happen. Ben Cockayne did it for a while.
I can see where Trojan is coming from.Max is a matchwinner at FB- we really have missed him. That means Jay pitts again at SO not ideal but at least he probably has more experience there than Walmsley. I'll leave that poser to the coach! Think our cover for full back as been very good ,20 minutes laps in cup game does not make him a bad player . I totally agree ! Roarke is a very good fb but Max has the edge in attack for me. In fact I don't think there is a better fb in SL at creating chances for others - and that includes Welsby who to me is more of an individualist.
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| Personally, I think it's now become a problem that we've got a quota player in Walmsley that the Coach doesn't rate. He's got to be making the team when quota spots are so valuable. Also going into the game I know quite a few people were twitchy with having Pitts in the halves again. Having your loose forward trying to play such an integral part of the teams attacking play is just a shot in the dark tbh, and it just puts all the pressure on Lino and the knock on from that is it makes the opposition's job much easier, shutting down one man instead of 2 options. I know it is what it is, but we've got to just get through this period until we get Trueman and Ruessell back, or find a loan replacement. Also on Scott, Powell sees him as a centre, nobody had any problems with his ability in that position previously, in fact, the opposite, he looked very good, and he says that's where he's played the vast majority of his career. There's a big leap between being a powerful meter-eating centre that makes space for his winger and being a fast winger. I think it's unfair for people to judge him in a position he's probably never played before and then want to shove him in the back row because of it. Why he ended up there instead of say, Corey Hall, I'm not sure because he'd have been a better fit imo.,
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All our play in the second half came from the interplay between forwards. Lovely passing moves, especially when Cozza came back on.
I felt for Scott; he is not a winger. To be fair he had some good moments in the second half (tackle into touch for one). It was such a crazy call by Powell.
Griffin should never start instead of Vagana. Vagana offers so much more. Yes he made a few mistakes last week, but surely we are meant to give youngsters a chance. Dropping him is no help.
Next week, Hall to centre and Walmsley wing for me. Vagana instead of Griffin. Rourke in at 6 or fullback (then Max moves to 6).
Yeah, I agree with most of that. Vagana has to come back in; he's our future with a massive ceiling, play him. Rate him or not, we've got to play Walmsley and for me, Scott and Pratt are our 2 best centres that offer something a bit different to each other.There's no way we can keep the Pitts experiment going again, we're just losing so much in terms of options by playing him there instead of moving Max into the halves and playing Rourke at FB. I know Max is the better all-around FB, but needs must, and he's so many leagues above Pitts in the halves, there's no comparison. It's just leaving such a big hole in our team at present. Whereas Rourke playing FB instead of Max doesn't imo, not in the short term anyway. Ideally, Trueman appears and sorts out so many problems.
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| Shifty Cat:Trinity_lurcher:
All our play in the second half came from the interplay between forwards. Lovely passing moves, especially when Cozza came back on.
I felt for Scott; he is not a winger. To be fair he had some good moments in the second half (tackle into touch for one). It was such a crazy call by Powell.
Griffin should never start instead of Vagana. Vagana offers so much more. Yes he made a few mistakes last week, but surely we are meant to give youngsters a chance. Dropping him is no help.
Next week, Hall to centre and Walmsley wing for me. Vagana instead of Griffin. Rourke in at 6 or fullback (then Max moves to 6).
Yeah, I agree with most of that. Vagana has to come back in; he's our future with a massive ceiling, play him. Rate him or not, we've got to play Walmsley and for me, Scott and Pratt are our 2 best centres that offer something a bit different to each other.There's no way we can keep the Pitts experiment going again, we're just losing so much in terms of options by playing him there instead of moving Max into the halves and playing Rourke at FB. I know Max is the better all-around FB, but needs must, and he's so many leagues above Pitts in the halves, there's no comparison. It's just leaving such a big hole in our team at present. Whereas Rourke playing FB instead of Max doesn't imo, not in the short term anyway. Ideally, Trueman appears and sorts out so many problems. Sounds like how longs a piece of string with Trueman returning. It?s not good having a herniated disk at his age?? or any age for that matter. Be interesting to see how that pans out, whether he needs Neuro intervention or if it can be managed with injections vis MSK team as I believe Powell said. Either way it?s not great, he won?t be able to train so will take a while to get back up to match fitness if the problem is somehow sorted. I personally can?t see him back for a few weeks yet??
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| Pat_Bateman:Shifty Cat:Trinity_lurcher:
All our play in the second half came from the interplay between forwards. Lovely passing moves, especially when Cozza came back on.
I felt for Scott; he is not a winger. To be fair he had some good moments in the second half (tackle into touch for one). It was such a crazy call by Powell.
Griffin should never start instead of Vagana. Vagana offers so much more. Yes he made a few mistakes last week, but surely we are meant to give youngsters a chance. Dropping him is no help.
Next week, Hall to centre and Walmsley wing for me. Vagana instead of Griffin. Rourke in at 6 or fullback (then Max moves to 6).
Yeah, I agree with most of that. Vagana has to come back in; he's our future with a massive ceiling, play him. Rate him or not, we've got to play Walmsley and for me, Scott and Pratt are our 2 best centres that offer something a bit different to each other.There's no way we can keep the Pitts experiment going again, we're just losing so much in terms of options by playing him there instead of moving Max into the halves and playing Rourke at FB. I know Max is the better all-around FB, but needs must, and he's so many leagues above Pitts in the halves, there's no comparison. It's just leaving such a big hole in our team at present. Whereas Rourke playing FB instead of Max doesn't imo, not in the short term anyway. Ideally, Trueman appears and sorts out so many problems. Sounds like how longs a piece of string with Trueman returning. It?s not good having a herniated disk at his age?? or any age for that matter. Be interesting to see how that pans out, whether he needs Neuro intervention or if it can be managed with injections vis MSK team as I believe Powell said. Either way it?s not great, he won?t be able to train so will take a while to get back up to match fitness if the problem is somehow sorted. I personally can?t see him back for a few weeks yet?? If he is out a few weeks we need to be looking for a replacement- maybe we already are Who knows?
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| If he does have bulging discs then he's done for me, having just had mine operated on, I have suffered since 97 and my back has been in pain ever since, only time it wasn't was when I had the injection but once that wore off I was twice as bad because I hadn't been able to feel any pain in 2 months and overdid a lot of things.
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