Some of this defence is embarrassing. Embarrassing.

I've supported KC despite most others wanting him out. That's it now, I'm with the 'out' brigade now. This team isn't playing for him.

Not too sure who's played well for us? Dawson has done ok

The half time dressing pictures were telling in my opinion. It looked like the players were getting micromanaged by different coaches.

Nobody worth mentioning.



The issue is organisation. We offer almost no threat in attack from further than 10 metres away, and in defence we're all at sea, all the time. Teams have no trouble finding gaps against us.



Coach has to take the responsibility for this.

I thought Knowles was our best forward. He can actually tackle

Coach takes responsibility for NOTHING and never has done.

YOU where not good today, but give credit to us as well,we played well and have done for a bit now,

Only around 7000 in ground. We can blame it being on telly and the glorious weather but ordinarily Saints fans would have turned up.



The whole feel around the club is one of disenchantment. I could be talking out my backside here, but do the players even enjoy playing at home?

The coach doesn't seem to know who his good players are. Looking at the teams before the match Owen and Dawson on the wings with Tasi and Richards in the prop rotation. The score was an accurate reflection in the difference between the two 17s.



The team look void of energy or strength. We are solely reliant on one of our playmaker pulling a rabbit out of a hat. We seen determined to play dire turgid rugby but we can't tackle.



Maybe the worst part is that the only people not aware of this are the board. An attendance of 7.5k with 2.5k from Hull. An empty main stand on national tv, an embarrassment all round. The fans have had enough.

You played very well. However, we're dissecting the Saints performance and any of the other teams in SL would have beaten us today.

LMS was the only player who tried, bit hard on him if you think he wasn't worth a mention.

The team are professional players and should show that, so 99% of this loss is down to the players who couldn't tackle a rice pudding, shocking and lazy attitude. We could have had Bennet the english coach in charge today and we would have still got hammered, too many players with a soft mentality who have embarrassed the saints shirt.

Congrats to Hull showed 100% physical and mental effort, great team performance from them.

At least you had your *I was there* moment....Walsh made his annual run with the ball.

Think Wilkin needs to be spelled nowadays, what's he like weekly? Is he playing to many minutes?

Us Wires wouldn't have.

We would have been leading until the last 3 minutes when you would have scored a try and drop goal to beat us by 1 point

Haha, maybe if it was at the HJ

He's awful every single week. Not big enough, not strong enough to play in forwards. Not fast enough, clever enough or good enough to play in backs.



Imo needs releasing ( not happening).

It's a strange one because when saints are on sky he's played in the halves & back row but he isn't suited to either, most back rowers in the comp now are very strong/fast creative I don't see him offering any of them qualities, he's been a good servant but the game has no place for sentiment. Imo

I actually thought Wilkin carried the ball pretty well. What he did without the ball was a different story.



Hull's pack is relentless. Every one of them is huge, mobile, and very fit. Throw in guys like Fonua and Talanoa and its going to take one hell of an effort to physically dominate against Hull. Your big men just didnt ever seem to have the stomach for it, and Houghton, Sneyd and Shaul pretty much had a license to do what they wanted.



If you want a positive I thought Knowles looked a handful. Should have a good future.

I've watched Knowles all thru our youth system and he's a brilliant athlete and huge amount of potential

Who was saints 9? He had his own 20 minutes introductory before the game, thought peacock was going to ask him out on a date! Houghton showed him how to boss the ruck though.

Apparently Owens was doing the organizing in defence.



The pre-season training as per the videos was based on strength building. Not pace, not stamina not skill. I always expected a blow out like this.

The question is what are we going to do about this. Sack KC - I don't think we have a plan B?

Lomax - Largely anonymous, feeling his way back in

Dawson - Did nothing wrong, nothing particularly right either, his usual self

Percival - Pretty poor

Peyroux - An absolute farce of a signing, offers absolutely nothing a generic academy player couldn't

Owens - An absolute disgrace again. Fat, unfit, lazy, poor motivated

Fages - Poor, but we'll let him off

Walsh - Decent again I thought. Getting some of his confidence back, improving

Walmsley - Needs a week off. Shocking today, totally dominated yet again

Roby - Bettered again by his opposite number, he's definitely over the crest of the hill now

Amor - Hard working as ever, but bullied by bigger, stronger forwards as ever

Vea - Very poor, needs to be released

Greenwood - Some good lines, but defends like a child

Wilkin - A few good hard runs in the second half, but some absolutely pathetic attempts to tackle. Needs to be released pronto



Richards - I'd love to know what this useless lump has over KC. He's pathetic, fat and lazy. Thompson, Savelio etc can't get in the side?

LMS - Class again, genuinely the only Saints player who cares

Knowles - Decent young forward. Should be getting more gametime along with Thompson and Savelio at the expense of Wilkin, Tasi, Richards etc

Tasi - Another useless signing. Big unit yet runs like a nun. Needs releasing ASAP



Not much to be positive about was there?

Same question again, is it bad players or the way they are being coached?